Bards: Sword vs Valor?Advice (self.dndnext), submitted 2 years ago by Ryunosuke-Ryusei. [–]SirKiren 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). Feels like Battlemaster a bit, but confined to melee. Be civil to one another - Unacceptable behavior includes name calling, taunting, baiting, flaming, etc. As a Valor Bard, I would cast Concentration debuffs if I'm ranged (Faerie Fire) and non-Concentration debuffs if I'm melee (Blindness and Plant Growth). Other than that the two paths are the same mostly until lv 14 which is basically a difference of “+1d6 to damage/ac every round you attack” vs “bonus action attack after spell casting anything” which is also nice for the theme of blending blade and magic (even bladesinger can’t do that without a haste spell). Affiliate links are not allowed. Their powers could only be effectively used by bards, and in fact, any non-bard that attempted to use one of these instruments ran the risk of injury. Extra dexterity or charisma depending on your game and extra attack. Because you are relying almost completely on the Bard spell list, and there aren't a lot of Bard damage spells, you are going to focus on buffs and debuffs. The College of Swords bard's Blade Flourish feature (XGtE, p. 15) says, in part: Whenever you take the Attack action on your turn, [...] if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice. With tons of combat skills and spell options, a bard can round out any party in a number of ways. Swords can use their weapon as an arcane focus, giving easier access to more spells. But though they use their weapons to entertain, they are also highly trained and skilled warriors in their own right. ... For me, cool character concept > mechanics. With flourishes you get a ton of mobility and some nice bonus damage on top of a normal melee attacks, to say nothing of the defensive, AoE and shoving abilities. Character rp-wise I have a fun idea for it but I am having trouble nailing down how to deal with the mechanics. The downside is that the resource management is a little tight - BIs at 4 are a LR resource. The best thing about the whip is the fact that it can be used as … Top dnd5e.wikidot.com. Thankfully at 6 I'll gain extra attack, but that's a ways off right now. Your intermediate goal is rogue 3 and college of swords bard at level 6 to get extra mobility and easy sneak attack as well as dex bonus to your offhand attack, more extra mobility and extra damage. And immediately I started comparing with BM maneuvers. Personally, I prefer Sword because I like TWF thematically and don't want to take unnecessary dips. Their talent with … Bard: College of Swords Read More » We discuss the next subclass in the series from the Dungeon Master's Guide: the College of Swords Bard! But I’ve always had issues about feeling very weak in melee battle so I thought about building a new college and I’m taking a hexblade 2 dip as well for Shield/Hex/Curse and stuff too. Well I can’t really guarantee what party he’ll be played with most due to AL aside from the one Evoker friend I had but she also has counterspell last I played with her and protecting her would be his first priority ordinarily as well but it seems hard to really determine which BI use actually ends up more helpful overall I guess? Quick Navigation D&D 5e/Next Top You're either attacking or casting. Of course, players looking to make a bard in D&D 5e should keep in mind that a bard's best party contribution, regardless of their build, is support. RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons 5e: Best Magic Items for Bards Today we will be looking at some of the weapons best suited to those belonging to the bard … What do you think works best? The bard has managed to grow beyond the subpar abilities of previous editions to become one of the best classes in Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition.It is a full caster class boasting a robust spell list and has the ability to steal a total of 6 spells from any other list in the game. What's your opinion on graviturgy wizards? I mostly wanted to get some practical opinions on Swords as opposed to Valor. I like the Valor inspiration since the AC boost reminds me of the main way I used cutting words but it’s my ally’s own reaction now (contrasts them using counterspell or shield or AoO from my dissonant whispers). Also dont let the whispers bard "dominate the RP." I'm actually lv 3 now. Ultimate 5e Bard Class Guide for Dungeons and Dragons A party just isn't complete without a bard. Which module did you stop playing ? [–]Ryunosuke-Ryusei[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). Is fudging a dice roll ok? In dialogue, a bard… [–]GreatWhiteToySharkBard 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). But your OP bard is leagues above the… Valor Bard is casting more spells in combat because even with Extra Attack, your damage potential from spells and attacking is pretty even. My experience is that Valor Bard blends martial prowess and support casting while Sword Bard is more about buffing yourself. Any problems/solutions/benefits that I did not think of. The Idea? Well the issue with can’t cast Counterspell will remain even with Valor Sword+Shield until I get the War Caster feat anyways and that shouldn’t be an issue since Magical Secrets would be after my second ASI so I’d almost definitely have it by then. I went to level 4 and then took 1 level of rogue for the expertises, but the Sneak Attack is a great bonus that stacks with Blade Flourish and really makes the tactical side of the game fun. Rendered by PID 18402 on r2-app-0d0045073012ce879 at 2020-12-06 02:24:55.614699+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: FR. The mobile Flourish only lets me move closer to the target again unless you mean knock them away and just not get close again? Valor Bard is probably a more effective gish 90% of the time but the flourishes give some fun in combat options and pretty good mobility. Then rogue 5. Medium armor master or 1 level of Fighter goes a long way for Swords bards. Strangely, the Bard's emphasis on the Performance skill from previous editions has wholly vanished. As a Sword Bard, I would cast self preserving buffs on myself (Heroism and Warding Wind). Are you a songbird? 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